My experience with staatenlos.ch and the “stateless video course”

My experience with staatenlos.ch and the “stateless video course”

Update March 2023

I had received a favorable offer in which also the “new and revised” stateless video course was included. Of course I took a look at the new course. Christoph has actually revised the course and partly added new content. In addition, he has also added nice and clear presentation slides and also the sound quality, which I strongly criticized, is overall better than before. However, there are still some videos where better sound quality would be appropriate.

The part with the health insurance he has now probably partly given to “grenzenlos sicher”. Also, according to the homepage, there should be a subsequent discount of 5% in April. However, I have not yet been able to verify this.

All in all, the offer should now be much better than before. I would be happy if you support my (pre)work a bit and buy the course via my affiliate link (click here). I am also very interested in whether the link actually works and is counted.

If you don’t like something you can write me an email and I will include it in my field report.

Previous field report (April 2021)

Many of you will know Christoph Heuermann – the operator of staatenlos.ch – and his lifestyle.

I have now taken a closer look at his stateless video course and would certainly not buy this course again. Already after the order the fun begins, because the access data are not transmitted to you at all automatically (at least in my case). I thought this person earns thousands of Euros every month by selling these courses, but already start to doubt this right after the purchase.

The videos in German have a below average sound quality and are already several years old. He apologizes for this on the course pages and therefore gives you the – in his opinion – more current and better course in English “for free”.

The knowledge from the video course is also available free of charge on the Internet or on his blog pages and is mainly limited to this. To be fair, I must point out here that he actually promises nothing else.

Also, the advertised “Stateless Inner Circle” group on Facebook (for buyers of the course) includes just 131 members (as of April 11, 2021). This also somehow contradicts the marketing image of countless courses sold.

However, he has now finally “shot the bird” with his newsletter on the subject of “Your international stateless health insurance”.

So he writes in his e-mail:

"Staatenlos.ch hat darüber schon seit Anfang gründlich recherchiert, war aber nie mit den angebotenen Lösungen recht zufrieden. Es lag also irgendwann nahe, sich selbst um eine bessere Lösung zu kümmern."

He has thus taken care of a better solution and implies that his “framework contract” would be better than the normal contract or other insurance contracts, because he was never satisfied with other solutions.

On closer inspection, it is exactly the same contract as April International, which is also available for normal customers. Both contracts are in country group 3 and have exactly the same premium (to the cent).

If anyone doubts this, I have the corresponding (identical offers) via email.

To be honest, it is also nowhere apparent to me that this is actually a real framework contract. In the offer, there is only the word stateless under the field “company”, but I could not fully verify this.

I think that April International’s health insurance is not bad, but I think that the “stateless health insurance” in its current form (see above) is just an “affiliate marketing ploy”.

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